Not a Liberal 2.0er
Who is not a Liberal 2.0er
Republicans: Tea Party, Liberty Caucus , Bernie or Busters, #walkaway movement (including the r/WalkAway subreddit), Susan B Anthony List,
Republican party: , Radical Republicans, Independent Republicans, these type of Republican cons, Peter Thiel's New Right, Bull Moose Progressives
Left Libertarian American Conservatives (Sheldon Richman thought), Left Wing Paleo Conservatives, Paternalistic Conservatism, One Nation Conservatism, Conservative Socialists, Conservative Liberals, Common Good Constitutionalism , TradCath, Christian Nationalism, Conservative Revolution, *Alt Fascism Movement (*see here for more)
r/ShitNeoconsSay ,r/KotakuInAction, r/LeftCantMeme, r/EnoughCommieSpam, , r/Cringe Anarchism, r/Capitalism vs Socialism
Promise Keepers, Liberty Hangout, IDW (including r/JordanPeterson subreddit, SamHarris subreddit)
Fourth Political theorists, Post Liberals, Dark Mutualism , Anarcho Monarchism, Alex Nalvahny Nationalism
Libertarian Party (LP including the Socialist Caucus but excluding the Mises Caucus)
Right Libertarians (including the r/Libertarian subreddit) Libertarian Paternalism, Voluntaryism, Bleeding Heart Libertarians, Hoppeism, Distributist Libertarianism, Social (Democracy) Libertarianism i.e SocBert, Anarcho Capitalists (including the r/AnarchoCapitalism subreddit), Ayn Randists, Pan Secessionism
r/PoliticalCompassMemes subreddit, r/TimPool subreddit, r/JoeRogan subreddit
Social Credit, Peronists, De Francism
Democratic Capitalism, Keynesian economics (only if it replaces neoliberalism and only neo Keynesian/post Keynesian and or if used this way), Nordic Model, Super Capitalism, Collective Capitalism, State Capitalism
Syrzia alter Neoliberalism, Hayakian 'Neoliberalism', Milton Friedman economics (at its most leftward, heredox OR normal Milton Friedman economics when used for Left Acceleration)
Forward Party, El Marche!, Five Star Movement, Citizens Party (Spain), Brookings Institute
Militant Moderate, 'Reactionary centrists' (including Matthew Yglesias, New York Times editorial page, David Brooks, Bari Weiss, Shadi Hamid, Steven Pinker, Jonathan Chait and like here)
Enlightened Centrists, r/ChangeMyView subreddit, r/TrueOffMyChest subreddit, r/UnpopularOpinion subreddit, r/TrueUnpopularOpinion subreddit
Patsoc (Patriotic Socialism), Christian Democrats, Yellow Vest movement, Integral Nationalism, Social Alternative, Civic Nationalism ,NON 'Succdems' Social Democrats (like Third Way SocDems, Left Social Democrat including pre policy regime SocDem etc)
Left Interventionism, Left Neoconservatism (like Vaush Neoconservatism), Woodrow Wilson doctrine (a smidge only)
Democrats : Boll Weevil Democrats, Blue Dogs (Blue Dogs who fall into one or more of these categories: 'Reactionary centrists', center right, centrist or did not vote to condemn Socialism), New ERA Democrats, New Democrat Coalition of the Democrat Party (ND coalition members who fall into one or more of these categories: center right, centrist or 'Reactionary centrists'), Libertarian faction, Populists in the Democrat Party/The Squad/Justice Democrats (mostly), Democratic Socialists of America (some)/Class Unity caucus , Reagan Democrats
Planned Parenthood, Teamsters, IWW, P.U.M.A, Triangulation politics ,Code Pink, Emily's List
Blue Labour, New Labour, One Nation Labour, Momentum (UK), Jeremy Corbyn Labour , Keir Starmer Labour, Conservative Party (UK), UKIP
Reasonable Liberal 2.0ers (including the r/AskALiberal subreddit), Liberal 1.0ers (search article for "Liberal 1.0), Omni liberalism, Classical Liberalism
Liberal Progressivism, Traditional Progressivism and Socialist Progressivism . Even though I am accepting of Liberal Progressivism, I do so prudently and with wary caution
I feel that Socialist Progressivism is the best form (and ideal form) of Progressivism
r/WayOftheBern subreddit, the good r/EnoughPetersonSpam users mentioned here
Left Wing:
Leftists and leftist sympathizers (i.e good non Leftist liberals) who rightfully come to the conclusion that class is the central category for understanding politics and that the proletariat is the revolutionary agent
The demographic of leftists who would best fit the r/PoliticalCompassMemes subreddit. These would typically be Gen Zer leftists who already frequently post in meme and shitpost subreddits and would be generally Socialist progressive. They might support Socialism, Marxism, etc, maybe even communism, but they at are open minded, don't take themselves too seriously, and are willing to have fun and joke around, to make fun of both themselves and their opponents indiscriminately.
Green Lib Left (in general), Auth Left (mostly)
Real Left Wing , Professional Left, Alt Left , Left Wing populists/left of center Populists, Post Left (i.e like Aimee Terese, Malcolm Keyune)/The leftists and left leaning people falsely smeared as 'Post Left' by the 'Post' Left Watch Twitter account, Dirtbag Left, Brocalists (including the Anti idpol left like stupidpol) , Bernie Bros, ChapotrapHouse reddit left, RedScarePod reddit left, Anti Neoliberal (Post Neoliberal)
non Liberal 2.0 leftist subreddits mentioned here,
Black Hammer Organization, New Black Panthers, Occupy Wall Street, The Gravel Institute, TERFs (including r/GenderCritical subreddit and o/Ovarit)
r/HonestTansgender, Transmeds/Truscums, r/AskGayBros (and or r/GayBros) subreddit, r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates subreddit, r/MensLib subreddit
Black Panthers, , BLA, SLA, A.N.S.W.E.R, Tucutes (conditionally and or in theory), subreddit, Transhumanists, Degrowth, ,C4SS
Left Libertarian (also Mutualists/Market-oriented left libertarian, Left Wing Free market anarchist-anarchistic socialism [Tuckerite]) , /Left Rothbardians, Agorists, Cercle Prodhoun, Anarcho Syndicalists, Post Left Anarchists/Left Anarchists (including the subreddit), Anarcho Libertarianism/Egoists, Anarcha feminists
r/Tankiejerk subreddit The good leftist side:
The far left tankiejerk members and content is non Liberal 2.0 (at least to me)
The tankiejerkers who are similar to Tankies or the tankies who took over Tankiejerk are non Liberal 2.0. Anti Capitalist tankiejerkers are non Liberal 2.0
The non economic leftist Liberal 2.0er tankiejerkers (who the tankiejerkers call 'Liberal') who punch left on tankiejerk against the non tankies on tankiejerk trying to move said tankiejerk users rightward of Joe Biden are non Liberal 2.0
For example after the non economic leftist Liberal 2.0er tankiejerkers (who the tankiejerkers call 'Liberal') try to get the economically leftist tankiejerk users to support r/Neoliberal subreddit economics, New Democrat Coalition/Blue Dog Coalition Capitalism or even outright anti socialism/anti communism (in the vein of enough commie spam)
When said thing happens, the economically leftist tankiejerkers who due to said 'Liberal' takeover of Tankiejerk move rightward of Joe Biden on economics (or even become outright Anti Socialist or Anti Communist) are non Liberal 2.0
Also the times when tankiejerk and its users are mocked from the left by r/ShitLiberalsSay and other tankie subs for sounding right wing
The content and users on Tankiejerk that are less ipdol than the pro Palestinian idpol of stupipdol are non Liberal 2.0
The Socialist Alternative faction to tankiejerk who also are not Nancy Pelosi supporters are non Liberal 2.0ers
The hardline anarchists (like Anarcho Communists) and socialists on Tankiejerk who are anti liberal are non Liberal 2.0
The pro China Anarchists on tankiejerk are non Liberal 2.0
r/Mutualism subreddit, r/AntiWork subreddit, r/anarchy101 subreddit
r/AgainstHateSubReddits The 10 percent of times that AHS has occasionally good, non Liberal 2.0 posts and when their users spam bannable often right wing content on right wingish forums to get said right wingish forums banned (because of what they post on those forums not due to their actions of spamming said subs which are non political acts)
Communist Party USA (when they aren't being distracted by toilet genders, microaggressions and similar things), Worker's World Party, PSL, Communist party of Russia, Broad Front (Chile), Social Convergence (Chile), Socialist Equality Party (US)
State Socialism (without Liberal characteristics), Marxists, Marxist Leninists, Stalinism ,USSR type economy, Austromarxism, Libertarian Marxists, Tankies (including non tankie Marxist Leninists, faux Tankies and real Tankies [like the tankies mocked here] but EXCLUDING these types of tankies and the types of tankies who harassed Contrapoints online since the latter are Liberal 2.0 tankies), Left Nazbol, Contrarian Economic Marxists who are not SJWs
Modern China type of economy (i.e Chinese Marxism i.e Post Dengist/Socialist Market economy China), Maoists, Left Communists, National Communists, Anarcho Communists, Luxemburgian, Trotskyists (somewhat and but close to blurring the line of non Liberal 2.0 and Liberal 2.0), European Socialists
r/CriticalTheory subreddit, r/GenZeDong subreddit, r/FullCommunism subreddit, r/LateStageCapitalism subreddit r/RightCantMeme r/Enlightened Centrism , r/enough vaush spam subreddit
r/Shitliberalssay (occasionally) SLS is better than most subreddits, Like when SLS and their users goes after the most retarded Neoliberal hot takes and mock Liberal 2.0ers despite that being a low bar really. (and usually from twitter screenshots).
And the non Liberal 2.0 element on SLS with their views on Russia-Ukraine, USSR, China, Bashar Assad etc (i.e the times when the tankie SLS users go tankie mode)
The non Tankie SLS members who while not being Tankie are Trots and the sort, but who do advocate for "leftist unity"
other side political post position
media:
The Atlantic (soft non Liberal 2.0, leans center and libertarian)
BBC (a bit non Liberal 2.0)
Canada Free Press, Cato Institute, Christian Science Monitor, City Journal, Counterpunch, Daily Mail, Deseret News
Epoch Times (except for their rabidly anti China stance, and their anti left wing bias)
Fee (Foundation for Economic Education), Grayzone, Jacobin, Liberty Hangout, Medium,The Nation, Newsweek, NY Post, Quilette, Reason, RT, Sputnik
The Hill (somewhat non Liberal 2.0)
Mediate (if I am feeling generous)
Toronto Sun, TYT (The Young Turks progressive channel)
Vox (barely non Liberal 2.0)
Wall Street Journal, Washington Examiner, Washington Times, World Socialist Website
People:
David Auerbach, Krystal Ball , Kaitlyn Bennett, Maxime Bernier, Max Blumenthal/Grayzone , John Bolton, Brett Bozell, Russell Brand , Michael Brooks, Ben Burgis, Chris Calliza
James Carville, Noam Chomsky, Eric Clapton
Contrapoints: see here
Steven Crowder, Alan Dershowitz, Destiny (streamer Steven Bonnell II), Tim Dillion, Jimmy Dore, Georgette Druck, Alexander Dugin, Saagar Enjeti, David A French, Michelle Goldberg, BJG, Glenn Greenwald, Ryan Grim, Greg Guttfeld, Woody Harrelson, Haz , Katie Herzog
Eion Higgins (blurs the line , but he is fair and one of the few decent woke progressive writers in the US), Jackson Hinkle, Audrey Huff
Van Jones
Ana Kasparian ,The Kavernacle, Sameera Khan, Gayle King, Ryan Knight, Nomiki Konst (in general), Kyle Kulinski, Tomi Lahren, Roderick Long, Bill Maher, Aaron Mate, Chris Matthews, Caleb Mauphin , Steve McQuillen, Dick Morris, Elon Musk, Andy Ngo, Grover Norquist, Ben Norton, Olivia Nuzzi
Patton Oswald (at times he shifts into non Liberal 2.0 mode. I LOVE what Patton said about Trump supporters),
Anya Parampil, Christian Parenti, pewpewpie, Hakim, Hasan Piker (@hasanbi), Tim Pool, Chris Poole /WSWS, Radgeek
Redscare Podcast, Stephanie Rhule, Sheldon Richman, Joe Rogan, Ed Rollins, Murray Rothbard, Dave Rubin, Christopher Rufo
Susan Sarandon (somewhat non Liberal 2.0 to a lot non Liberal 2.0 but she uses the same Liberal 2.0 talking points at times) , Michael Savage
Elijah Schafer, Sam Seder , Ben Shapiro, David Sirota, Tavis Smiley
Howard Stern (at times he goes left and right of Liberalism 2.0)
Jon Stewart, Jon Stossel, Andrew Sullivan, Jessica Tarlov (basically), Peter Thiel, Neil de grasse Tyson , Cenk Uyghur
Vaush (Vaush is one of the few Leftists who can fuse Liberalism with Left Wing politics and make that fusion work great by adding a positive element to Leftism without that fusion coming out as Liberalism 2.0),
Emma Vigleland, Roger Waters, Sydney Watson, Brett Weinstein, Jason Whitlock, Shawn Wilbur , Slavoj Žižek
Politicians:
Eric Adams, Candy Cdebaca,
Evan Bayh, Michael Bennet, Gabriel Boric, Tony Blair (for the most part), Bill Bradley
Mayor Pete: Mayor Pete is to the right of Liberalism 2.0 on the economy, religion, and a few other issues (Charles Barkley and Alex Keaton endorsed him). Pete may even go to the left of Liberalism 2.0 at times. Though Mayor Pete has enough Liberal 2.0 views I am wary of supporting him
Herman Cain, Ben Carson, Pedro Castillo
Bill Clinton Bill Clinton was Third Way, New Democrat etc, though recently he is Liberal 2.0 or at least pretends to be to save his image from his sex scandals and infidelity
Hillary Clinton : Hilary Clinton is barely in the non Liberal 2.0 zone by most of her political views even recently especially her private views but in 2016 she was close to being the very image and mother of Liberalism 2.0 Hillary For Prison 2024
Jeremy Corbyn, Piers Corbyn, Dan Cox
Charlie Crist: Charlie Crist still has at least some non Liberal 2.0 tendencies in him
Henry Cueller, Betsy Devos, Larry Elder
Keith Ellison: Keith Ellison has enough non Liberal 2.0 views and actions for me to place here. One of his biggest sins is Ellison supporting some rarer Liberal 2.0 blocks of ANTIFA which is cringe
Diane Feinsteinn, Gianfranco Fini ,Harold Ford Jr, Bill Frist, Keiko Fujimori ,Tulsi Gabbard, George Galloway, Newt Gingrich, Barry Goldwater, Kristen Gonzalez, Josh Gottheimer, Phil Gramm, Fred Grandy, Richard Grennell, Pavel Grudinin ,Nikki Haley, Mark Hatfield, Katie Hobbs (soft non Liberal 2.0er with a few Liberal 2.0 cycles), Herbert Hoover, Alexandra Hunt, Giorgio Jackson, Gary Johnson, Jo Jorgensen
Tim Kaine : At times Tim Kaine can be seen as being non Liberal 2.0
Thomas Kean, RFK Jr, Roh Khanna, Dennis Kucinich, Marine LaPen, Alexander Lukashitko, Lula, Nicholas Maduro, Emmanuel Macron (somewhat to solidly), Joe Manchin, Maud Maron, Thomas Massie, Blake Masters, Cynthia McKinney, Evan McMullen, Martha Mcsalley, Jean-Luc Mélenchon,Narendi Mondi , Scott Morrison, Bill Nelson, Richard Nixon
Barack Obama Barack Obama is at times goes left and right of Liberalism 2.0. He straddles the line between being Liberal 2.0 and non Liberal 2.0. But Obama’s presidency caused the rise of Liberalism 2.0
Ihlan Omar: Ihlan Omar has mostly non Liberal 2.0 views and actions
Mehmet Oz, Burgess Owens
Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Juan Peron, Enoch Powell, Ayanna Pressley, Ronald Reagan (somewhat non Liberal 2.0 and or strategically non Liberal 2.0 at times), Ross Perot
Max Rose
Bernie Sanders: Bernie is to the LEFT of Liberalism 2.0, and judging by this article, it seems in some ways, Bernie has pragmatically moved slightly to the RIGHT of Liberalism 2.0 . I love both versions of Bernie Sanders. Leftish Bernie and moderate Bernie .
Tim Ryan, Brett Schundler, Winsome Earl Sears, Curtis Silwa
Krysten Sinema : Krysten Sinema was left of proto Liberalism 2.0 in the early to mid 2000s, now she is to the right of Liberalism 2.0 more often than not so Sinema is somewhat non Liberal 2.0
Abigail Spangberger
Keir Stramer (mostly), Jill Stein, Roger Stone
Rashida Tlaib : Rashida Tlaib is somewhat in the non Liberal 2.0 camp due to her Anti Israel views which sucks since I am somewhat pro Israel (but at least he isn’t like GWB or Boris Johnson onIsrael)
Jon Tester, Liz Truss, Malcolm Turnball, Nina Turner, Camila Vallejo, JD Vance, Jeff Van Drew, Jesse Ventura, Sahra Wagenknecht, Jim Webb, Karen Whilsett, Marianne Williamson, Andrew Yang, Glenn Younkin, Lee Zedlin (pretty much)
Groups
BDS BDS is non Liberal 2.0 with their maps, Anti Zionism , pro Palestinian activism, but solidly Liberal 2.0 with their boycott, SJW, cancel culture methods along with them wrongly saying that Israel is an ‘apartheid’ state which is the type of demonizing that Liberal 2.0s do
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